tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post1724223216557664534..comments2024-02-25T09:45:48.931-05:00Comments on Lally's Alley: OBAMA'S LIBYA SPEECHLallyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05310472614196384595noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-80603385499957916392011-04-03T18:56:54.311-04:002011-04-03T18:56:54.311-04:00Robert,
Thank you.Robert,<br />Thank you.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-39728413256817003442011-04-03T18:50:35.978-04:002011-04-03T18:50:35.978-04:00I stand corrected Jim - I couldn't find when y...I stand corrected Jim - I couldn't find when you'd cited this before. He needs to work on his bedside manner if in fact he did say these things. It's easy and temptimg to fall into a tit for tat, he said she said loop, But it doesn't advance anyone's cause or interests, just like the Quran buring was not done to advance anything whatsoever, save the self promotion of the criminal who did this as he is in very real fact, accessory to murder.Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-32317666553499473422011-04-03T18:41:19.238-04:002011-04-03T18:41:19.238-04:00Robert,
What?? C**t and t**t is a proper term for ...Robert,<br />What?? C**t and t**t is a proper term for Maher to use in describing Palin and Bachman? Are you nuts or are conservatives not worthy of any courtesy and liberals can be excused from any breach of decorum?JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-9534783076614453012011-04-03T18:05:50.053-04:002011-04-03T18:05:50.053-04:00"Maher is a low life for repeatedly using fou..."Maher is a low life for repeatedly using foul terms in describing women he disagrees with politically. He also is ignorant and worst of all not funny" You'd be banished from a kindergarden debate team you call this specific, Jimmass - there's no trace of a specific example here.Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-65380471933269390292011-04-03T18:02:45.027-04:002011-04-03T18:02:45.027-04:00I don't owe this to you, by your own terms you...I don't owe this to you, by your own terms you first owe the participants of this blog specific examples of non-vulgarity. Apparently when it comes down to it you are unable to do this, because everything about the three people mentioned is vulgar.Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-48215907571233075762011-04-03T17:10:27.618-04:002011-04-03T17:10:27.618-04:00Robert,
I accused Maher of vulgarity with specific...Robert,<br />I accused Maher of vulgarity with specificity. You accuse convervative commentators without specificity. A little specificity is in order. It would make your outrage more effective, if you can back it up.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-53529582076391097132011-04-03T14:18:10.826-04:002011-04-03T14:18:10.826-04:00you say "rarely if ever vulgar" which is...you say "rarely if ever vulgar" which is saying in effect that even in your view they may sometimes in fact be vulgar.Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-3482898025535097482011-04-03T13:23:24.268-04:002011-04-03T13:23:24.268-04:00Ispo facto, Rush, Anne and Mark are vulgar. YOU i...Ispo facto, Rush, Anne and Mark are vulgar. YOU initiated the claim that they are not vulgar, so it is incumbent upon you to first provide specific examples of how they are not vulgar. And once again, you disparage President Carter in a non specific way.Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-25418181983355649942011-04-03T12:11:11.171-04:002011-04-03T12:11:11.171-04:00It is a shame that Jimma did not begin with and s...It is a shame that Jimma did not begin with and stick to Habitat for Humanity. <br /><br />Robert you brought up the supposed vulgarities of conservatives. but without specifics. I will provide examples of when you attempt to prove your point.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-7288035871209075452011-04-03T11:44:59.126-04:002011-04-03T11:44:59.126-04:00Please provide specific examples of how liberals d...Please provide specific examples of how liberals disparaged Justice Thomas and Secretary of State Rice. As an example of disparagement, your continual, insistent referral to President Carter as "Jimma", this to a man who, well into his '80s, continues to help build houses for the homeless.Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-27818009259501574212011-04-03T09:28:31.892-04:002011-04-03T09:28:31.892-04:00Nixon may have been a foe of liberals but he insti...Nixon may have been a foe of liberals but he instituted liberal ideas which of course failed for the most part.<br /><br /><br />Paul,<br />How do I prove a negative. Conservatives are funny. Lally's liberal hero Maher is a low life for repeatedly using foul terms in describing women he disagrees with politically. He also is ignorant and worst of all not funny. All dispicable behavior is fine as long as the object of ridicule is a conservative. Look how liberals continully disparaged Justice Thomas and Secratary of State Condelessa Rice. Tell me again how all conservatives are racist and liberals are civil rights advocates.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-28413096557012429402011-04-03T01:39:49.446-04:002011-04-03T01:39:49.446-04:00Jim, please provide specific examples of how the a...Jim, please provide specific examples of how the aforesaid self aggrandizing vulgarians are not vulger, since you made the first assertion that they are not so.Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-47435782575896442882011-04-02T22:28:20.911-04:002011-04-02T22:28:20.911-04:00Nixon was a rabid anti-liberal, but a pragmatic po...Nixon was a rabid anti-liberal, but a pragmatic politician faced with an overwhelmingly liberal electorate on some issues and as I said in my earlier comment made concessions where he thought they were necessary for him to maintain power. But in his methods, his rhetoric, and most of his actions and policies, he was a true blue conservative in the terms of those times. Reagan obviously outdid him and made him look like he was more liberal than he was in retrospect as Bush/Cheney did the same for Reagan (except Reagan had been made into a conservative icon so his record is distorted to make it look like he was as far right as the current crop of rightwingers). But since the right continues to move further and further from the center, in retrospect everyone becomes suspect no matter their conservative credentials and resume. As I've pointed out before, one of the main writers current rightwing ideologues base their latest ideas on was kicked out of the John Birch Society for being too far right, at a time when the Birchers were basically the KKK in suits who went so far as to accuse Eisenhower of being a "Communist!"—as our resident rightwinger labels Nixon a "liberal" which simply means that the rightwing framing of the issues now is such that compromises and concessions make a conservative subject to being labeled the opposite, a liberal, which is how the right controls the Republican Party and keeps that party mostly incapable of compromise and therefor of actually governing in any way that represents the will of the people, et-endlessly-cetera.Lallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310472614196384595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-36535338752191803682011-04-02T18:36:24.483-04:002011-04-02T18:36:24.483-04:00Robert,
Please provide an example vulgarity of Ru...Robert, <br />Please provide an example vulgarity of Rush's, Anne Coulter's or Mark Steyn's.<br /><br />Lally,<br />Nixon instituted wage and price controls, abolished the gold standard and started the EPA. I do not think that is in the Conservative's playbook.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-20797456690455918272011-04-02T17:52:14.640-04:002011-04-02T17:52:14.640-04:00I think you've reached a logical conclusion Ro...I think you've reached a logical conclusion Robert. I almost wrenched my neck doing a double triple take on his last comment which had nothing to do with what you or I had been commenting on, and the idea of Nixon as a "liberal"?! He faced the power of a more liberal Democratic Party that at times controlled the Congress and before which he made concessions, but he was anything but a liberal. To paraphrase a famous quote, I know liberals, and Nixon was no liberal. And then to cite Ben Stein as anything but a rightwing propagandist (he actually first made his name being paid for exactly that! and a whiney one at that... time to shut off the spout.Lallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310472614196384595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-21914216642709455432011-04-02T17:35:57.333-04:002011-04-02T17:35:57.333-04:00You sealed the deal on that one. Calling Rush, Ann...You sealed the deal on that one. Calling Rush, Anne Coulter and Mark Steyn insightful and not vulgar makes you certifiably insane! And makes me insane for engaging in dialog with a lunatic!Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-91488696030003662602011-04-02T16:56:43.080-04:002011-04-02T16:56:43.080-04:00Lally,
You are obviously unfamiliar with Nixon...Lally,<br /><br />You are obviously unfamiliar with Nixon's China trip. It took Republican albeit a liberal Republican to do it. Did you enjoy the rest of Ben Stein's article. It is a shame you deleted Mark Steyn's article, it too had great humor and insight. Have you noticed how liberals are nasty like Bill Maher, whom you have expressed repeated admiration for. Do you think it is funny to call women who disagree with you politically, c***s and t***s? <br /><br />Rush, Anne Coulter, Mark Steyn are funny yet insightful and rarely if ever vulgar.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-15649650581750003522011-04-02T15:19:02.718-04:002011-04-02T15:19:02.718-04:00The lies are piling up again so the resident right...The lies are piling up again so the resident rightwinger can go blow off steam on some rightwing blog that buys them. But the idea of Nixon as a "peacemaker" makes my stomach turn. I have friends who died because Nixon lied and sold the voters on his having a "secret plan" to end the war in Viet Nam when all he did was expand it so that it lasted for six more years and hundreds of thousands of people died who didn't need to. At least those of us to the left of the rightwingers (which puts us anywhere from socialists to the few moderate Republicans still not quite extinct) were honest about LBJ (and he was too) messing up by getting involved in Viet Nam militarily. But anyone who attempts to defend Nixon as "a peacemaker" deserves one of the more terrible levels of Dante's inferno for their reward.Lallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310472614196384595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-72768586713228951872011-04-02T10:08:13.675-04:002011-04-02T10:08:13.675-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-32521235994699060392011-04-02T10:00:51.216-04:002011-04-02T10:00:51.216-04:00This is an excerpt from Ben Stein' commentary ...This is an excerpt from Ben Stein' commentary on Obama's Libya and Eygpt policy as the Muslim Brotherhood is about to take over. <br /><br />"Two questions:<br /><br />Whose side is Mr. Obama on?<br /><br />Where is Richard Nixon when we need him?"<br /><br />Oh, now I remember. He was a peacemaker. He was crucified.<br /><br />http://spectator.org/archives/2011/04/01/foolish-thoughts/1JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-21761711594222514982011-04-01T19:10:06.311-04:002011-04-01T19:10:06.311-04:00Robert,
Men are fallible. Madison addressed this ...Robert, <br />Men are fallible. Madison addressed this in the Federalist Papers. To paraphrase, if men were angels, there would be no need of law or a constitution limiting the powers of government.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-65356338053530815282011-04-01T18:54:14.547-04:002011-04-01T18:54:14.547-04:00And oh, so the Founders were fallable? and being s...And oh, so the Founders were fallable? and being so, we should hold their imagined principles above the exigencies of life today for what reason?Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-52187869728138877282011-04-01T18:49:54.408-04:002011-04-01T18:49:54.408-04:00Robert, You are inventive. Does that pass as liter...Robert, You are inventive. Does that pass as literary in your circles?JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-10940890694292358232011-04-01T18:48:18.561-04:002011-04-01T18:48:18.561-04:00maybe you should carry an eight pack of toilet pap...maybe you should carry an eight pack of toilet paper before you spout off, Jimmass.Robert Z.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15941970916761585971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567168789336947243.post-5850919319190921042011-04-01T18:42:24.760-04:002011-04-01T18:42:24.760-04:00Obama is the only president that I have ill reguar...Obama is the only president that I have ill reguard that exceeds my ill reguard for Jimma. Jimma helped kick off today's Islamic Terrorism. Jimma has actively worked to end Israel as a country. Israel is probably our only true ally in the world, besides Britain. Obama has taken over where Jimma left off.<br /><br />Ps Do not give me your crap about the founders. The Jefferson Adams election was one of the dirtiest electiond, complete with political payoffs. If you really want to talk about political excess, check out John Quincy Adams vs Andrew Jackson. Robert, maybe should read a little history before you spout off.JImhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795849285955713444noreply@blogger.com