Wednesday, February 29, 2012


[Click to enlarge & thanks to George Mattingly for Facebooking this where I saw it in one of my rare visits to see what someone sent me and then getting hooked on scrolling etc.]

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Blogger Jamie Rose said...

Right the f**K on!

February 29, 2012 at 12:35:00 AM EST  
Blogger tom said...

I asked my wife to look at this and she agreed- it does seem to be the mindset of the right and of far too many men. I am surprised that Fox hasn't one of their all male panels of non-experts on women discuss this very issue.

February 29, 2012 at 7:02:00 AM EST  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Let's get down to it...the female orgasm is the alpha and the omega. It is the fantasy that empires arise and fall from, that wars are fought for, that the very universe owes its existence to.

February 29, 2012 at 9:06:00 AM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

It is what we expect from liberals, that they have zero respect for 1st Amendment rights. Itis perfectly fine for the government to force religious people violate their strong moral beliefs. Religion has no place in the liberals view of America but abortion is sancrosanct.

February 29, 2012 at 5:23:00 PM EST  
Blogger tom said...

Jim - what we can't have our first amendment rights to express our opinion. Do you agree with the characters in the cartoon? If religious rights are so important to you then you should have no problem with Muslims using Sharia law, or other religions that practice animal sacrifice or Mormons and Muslims having the right to marry more than one woman. Do you want it so only some groups of Christian churches have rights. Think a little about what you are saying.

February 29, 2012 at 5:50:00 PM EST  
Blogger tom said...

Michael - if you want to delete mine too, that is okay. I don't think some on the right realize that when they complain about the left doing something - often they are doing the same thing.

February 29, 2012 at 5:56:00 PM EST  
Blogger Lally said...

Nah, I'll leave it on Tom, but if he does it again I'll delete. Many of us have been using logic and reason and facts on him for years now, but he's in the bubble, he can't hear or see or comprehend anything outside the rightwing propaganda machine. In fact, as I've said before here, I don't have to listen to Rush et. al. or even any news related to the right because hell parrot the day's line here whatever it may be and when I gave up arguing and started deleting because the right gets their lies out too much in our media and society anyway these days (mostly because most corporate leaders and their minions are where these lies and misinformation comes from and they reward those who carry the message etc.) and the response is always for him to start ranting about how none of us ever point out his lies when we've done it repeatedly and of course when we do he ignores it and changes the subject or continues ranting that no one is pointing out his lies or illogic etc.

February 29, 2012 at 6:41:00 PM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

Tom, the problem with shariah law is that it is not compatible with the Founding documents and the Bill of rights. Mormans conformed with US laws long ago. It is not kosher in the US to hang gays and stone women for being too friendly with a non family member.

February 29, 2012 at 7:43:00 PM EST  
Blogger tom said...

Ah, but Jim their are those here who hang gays and stone women and say it was the will of the Christian god.
But Mike is right - you are in an alternate reality and missed the point of my comment. You might be surprised what some of the founding Fathers believed. But then the right wants to edit American history to conform with the myth of America. No blemishes for them. No mistakes to admit and learn from. Argh, I said I wouldn't and I did anyway. The history degree gets in the way. Probably spent too much time out with the snow blower tonight.

February 29, 2012 at 8:07:00 PM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

No Christian God or Christian religion
demands that gays or sexual active non married women be stoned or hanged. Sharia law does. Honor killers are often sheltered by some sympathizing Muslims in America.

February 29, 2012 at 8:39:00 PM EST  
Blogger tom said...

Ignoring all of that here is an article related to Tom Tomorrow.

February 29, 2012 at 8:43:00 PM EST  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

I wonder if Jim has ever had any first hand contact with any Muslims? My guess is not. I have. I have eaten meals in Muslim homes, walked alone in the streets of Egypt and Jordan. I was always treated politely, respectfully and never felt threatened. I found the families to be devout, principled and mindful. This whole scare panic about Shariah Law is just that, an abomination of reality and truth. Don't bring your crap around here Jim,EVER AGAIN, until you earn the right to do so with some first hand experience and some self honesty. It's boring, transparent and a waste of life.

February 29, 2012 at 10:30:00 PM EST  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

I'm not denying honor killings, stonings, etc etc. but this is a small segment of a population, just like Timothy McVeigh is a small segment of a religion, etc. etc. and I've never heard Jim speak of any of the positive elements of Islam or of the many good, devout people of this faith.

February 29, 2012 at 10:55:00 PM EST  
Blogger tom said...

Jim gave the formula response from the right. I've spent time in a Muslim country and stayed with 3 different families. I was always treated kindly. Was well fed with wonderful food. Was treated well in public and found people easy to talk with. In enjoyed myself and would return.

March 1, 2012 at 12:07:00 AM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

Tom and Robert,

My only contact is with fellow Kiwanians who happen to be Muslim. One, Sharif works at Regis University, a Jesuit University, as a neighborhood out reach worker. Another, Mo, was a former Special Forces, broker with Merril Lynch. He put on a very memerable program for us, discussing micro loans to women in Pakistan, Bangledesh and India. They are both good guys, but that does not change the fact that Shariah law is incompatable with US guarantees of individual freedom and equality before the law as represented in the Founding Documents.

March 1, 2012 at 4:54:00 PM EST  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Please cite specific references for all of us as to where these so called laws are. And by the by, the Ten Commandments themselves forbid the coveting of thy neighbor's property, which goes against the very essence of that which is labeled "free enterprise."

March 1, 2012 at 5:52:00 PM EST  
Blogger tom said...

Blogger JIm said...

It is what we expect from liberals, that they have zero respect for 1st Amendment rights. Itis perfectly fine for the government to force religious people violate their strong moral beliefs

Jim my point was that we do force religious people to violate their strong moral beliefs. You missed it. The Mormons were told they had to give up their belief in polygamy to be part of the US. Sharia law, laws against cruelty to animals (sacrifice) etc have been a part of our history. You just want to say - well, my religious moral beliefs are being violated (or someone else who is Catholic... ) but, it is okay to tell religions that I don't agree with that they can't practice their beliefs.

March 1, 2012 at 8:32:00 PM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

Tom, No amount of US Constitutional tolerance could condone stoning women for sexual indicretions or hanging of gay men for being gay either by dna or by choice. Should we now make it lawfull in the US for US Muslim citizens to hang gays, stone women who stray according to Islamic law and kill their daughters who date Christians.
Robert, I fear you are ignorant beyond redemption. Free enterprize is profiting from one's labors or investment. It is not coveting, it is entrepenurial enterprize

March 1, 2012 at 9:32:00 PM EST  
Blogger tom said...

Jim - I have never said I condone any of that. Again you miss the point.

March 1, 2012 at 9:41:00 PM EST  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Jim's ignorance is exceeded by his stupidity, arrogance,and lack of cajones. The entire history of "free enterprise" and modern economics comes from one tribe wanting the other's land and bludgeoning/murdering them to get it. The very nature of "free enterprise" unregulated is what put us in the mess we're in today and it's greedy ignorant morons like Jim, Romney and Santorum that are keeping us there much longer than necessary. Not for one second would any of these Repubes do anything but grab for power and screw all of us but good.

March 2, 2012 at 10:59:00 AM EST  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

John Milton says "any man's death diminishes me, for I am involved in Mankind." meaning that we are all connected and that every choice and deed have consequence and each of our actions and choices affects others. Unregulated Free Enterprise for profit by nature results in gain for one at the expense/exploitation of others. This is why "Free Enterprise" goes against the will of God, of the highest precepts of all holy texts and religions.

March 3, 2012 at 9:26:00 AM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

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March 3, 2012 at 10:52:00 AM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

Your views on free enterprize seem to be synonomous with Obamanomics. The results or that policy is there for all to see and judge. It will be interesting to see how we decide come November.

March 3, 2012 at 10:52:00 AM EST  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Learn how to spell. And at the same time, learn how to be truthful. We are living in the results of the Bush administration. If it weren't for President Obama, we'd be a lot worse off than we are right now.

March 3, 2012 at 11:03:00 AM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

To gage the effectiveness of Obama's govt. directed capitalism, one needs only to look the Volt's sales the layoffs of 1300 workers which was just announced.

March 3, 2012 at 11:03:00 AM EST  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Once again, you mangle truth out of context to arrive at a prejudice-based conclusion. In other words, you lie. To wit:

GM said around 1,300 workers at the Hamtramck, Mich., factory where the Volt is built will be out of work between March 19 and April 23, a spokesman said.

That's a month. And the fault of this, if anything, lies in your sacred free marketplace, where products succeed or fail based on their performance.


Mark Reuss, GM's North American chief, said in an interview the auto maker remains committed to the Volt and is taking a number of steps to improve lagging sales. GM will launch a new national ad campaign this month that features Volt owners praising the car. It also recently dropped the monthly cost of leasing the vehicles to $350 from $399 for a 36-month lease. In California, new low-emissions versions of the vehicles that qualify for use in the state's high-occupancy vehicle lanes will be sold to consumers at no extra cost.

"This technology is here to stay, we have all kinds of people who want to copy it and go after it. We are not re-evaluating anything," Mr. Reuss said. "The only question here is what the rate of sales will be."

Insight from CFO Journal GM-Peugeot Alliance Could Contain Iran Tripwire Read CFO Journal. » For GM, the Volt has become an outsize issue. GM spent hundreds of millions of dollars developing the Volt and has been hoping the car would put a halo on the company's image, much the way the Prius hybrid won the favor of American consumers for Toyota Motor Corp.

Volt uses a lithium-ion battery to power the car and has a small gasoline engine that kicks in when the battery runs low.

Former GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz the main force behind the Volt, said recently that GM's lofty targets for the Volt are its main problem.

"The Volt is a bases-loaded home run," Mr. Lutz said. "It will overcome."

Like I said, learn to be thruthful.

March 3, 2012 at 11:15:00 AM EST  
Blogger JIm said...

Besides the Volt, which Obama continues to trumpet as a success, let us not forget the $500+ billion + of tax payer dollars that went to Solyndra and many more tax payer dollar that went to other favored companies.

If this were Bush shoveling money to oil or drug companies, liberals would be coming unglued.

March 3, 2012 at 11:37:00 AM EST  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

once (& for All) when they prove that God exists
there won't be anymore need for faith or religion....

80 % of all sicknesses can be cured via not eating salt, sugar, processed foods
and by

"waking up" those "doctors" who practice medic after consulting with their lawyers and the drug companies & bottom-feeding politicians....

March 3, 2012 at 2:43:00 PM EST  

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