Thursday, October 30, 2008

ANOTHER UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS ELECTION

I wonder why the press doesn't seem to take much notice of this.

Never in my lifetime, and perhaps in the history of the two party system, have the progeny of so many former presidents and luminaries of one party supported the candidate of the opposite party.

We know about Christopher Buckley, son of the most famous arch conservative of his time, William F. Buckley, supporting Obama. That's gotten some media attention because he's a well known writer.

And of course there's Ronald Reagan's son Ron, and daughter Patty.

But then there's also all kinds of Eisenhowers supporting Obama, as well as Goldwaters, descendants of Ike and Barry.

To understand the magnitude of this, just project twenty to thirty years into the future and picture the Bush daughters, some of Sarah Palin's children and grandchildren, Dick Cheney's grandkids and Bill O'Reilly's kids and grandkids all supporting Chelsea Clinton or one of the Obama girls for president on the Democratic ticket.

Just one more reason this has to be the most unique presidential race in the history of this country.

[PS: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Cindy McCain's half-sister is an Obama supporter.]

12 comments:

JIm said...

Yeah - "I am my brother's and sister's keeper" - Barack Obama

Apparently the Obamasiah , who wishes to become the Redistributor in Chief, is waiting for the state to help his aunt and brother. Since his brother lives in Kenya, that must be why he authored the $850 billion international anti poverty bill. The US would be a lot better off, if Barak would just help his family and leave our money alone.

Boston Housing Authority ‘flabbergastered’ Barack Obama’s aunt living in Southie

By Jessica Fargen | Friday, October 31, 2008 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Campaign 2008

A Boston Housing Authority director says Barack Obama’s aunt, a Kenyan woman who has lived in public housing for five years, is an “exemplary resident” and only recently did anyone know of her connection to the presidential contender.
Barack Obama's 'lost' brother found in Kenya
Senator Barack Obama's long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed

Lally said...

Notice Jim doesn't say "half-brother." So his rightwing sources say Obama doesn't send money to a half brother he never met or knew. Well Cindy McCain knows her half sisters very well. She was in the wedding party of the half sister who is now an Obama supporter. When their father died—the father of her and her half-sisters—Cindy gave the eulogy and refered to herself as her father's only child, never mentioning her half sisters who were sitting in the front row of the funeral! And she made sure they got nothing from their mutual father's hundreds of millions, keeping it all for herself. Cindy knew her half sisters well growing up and they all knew their father well. Obama only met his father once when Obama was ten, and his half brother was born much later on the other side of the world. And Obama never had money, let alone hundreds of millions, until he became a best selling author only two years ago. Cindy has been a hundred-millionairess all her life and never did anything to help her siblings. But why do I bother.

JIm said...

I suspect Cindy's half sisters are not living on the public dole.

JIm said...

Hi Mike,
Here is something else you can take up with those MIT scientists.
MIT scientists baffled by global warming theory, contradicts scientific data

Tibet endures record snowfalls
(00:58) Report
Oct. 31 - Tibet has suffered its heaviest snowfall on record, according to Chinese state media.

Seven people have been killed and more than 100,000 head of livestock have perished since the snow storm began on Sunday (Oct. 26). Meterologists said it was unusual to have such severe storms this early in

John M. Lally said...

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/

ACORN turned out to be a lot of nonsense.

Penn Judge Rejects GOP Suppression Bid
By Zachary Roth - October 31, 2008, 9:21AM
Add Pennsylvania to the list of states where GOP voter suppression efforts are going down in flames.

A state judge yesterday declined to support a grab-bag of a lawsuit filed by the party, which had sought to require ACORN both to turn over a list of the 140,000 voters it says it has registered, which could have made it easier for the GOP to challenge voters at the polls.

The suit also sought, among other things, to force ACORN air public-service announcements reminding first-time voters that they must bring identification to the polls, and to compel the state to provide more provisional ballots.

According to the Associated Press, the judge, Robert Simpson Jr., said "he was not convinced that the party and its fellow individual plaintiffs can ultimately prove their allegations that ACORN is fostering voter-registration fraud and that the state's election system lacks the safeguards to stop it."

Another one, apparently, bites the dust.

JIm said...

ACORN Fraud- FBI investigation far from over, but probably to late to affect election.

The FBI is investigating its voter registration efforts in several states, amid allegations that almost a third of the 1.3 million cards it turned in are invalid. And yesterday, a former employee of Acorn testified in a Pennsylvania state court that the group's quality-control efforts were "minimal or nonexistent" and largely window dressing. Anita MonCrief also says that Acorn was given lists of potential donors by several Democratic presidential campaigns, including that of Barack Obama, to troll for contributions.

Ms. MonCrief testified that in November 2007 Project Vote development director Karyn Gillette told her she had direct contact with the Obama campaign and had obtained their donor lists. Ms. MonCrief also testified she was given a spreadsheet to use in cultivating Obama donors who had maxed out on donations to the candidate, but who could contribute to voter registration efforts. Project Vote calls the allegation "absolutely false."
In her testimony, Ms. MonCrief says she was upset by Acorn's "Muscle for Money" program, which she said intimidated businesses Acorn opposed into paying "protection" money in the form of grants. Acorn's Brian Kettering says the group only wants to change corporate behavior: "Acorn is proud of its corporate campaigns to stop abuses of working families." ...

AlamedaTom said...

Jim: While I disagree with you on just about every level, it is clear to me that you are not a dunce. So, with regard to your frequent ACORN rants let's do some honest, empirical analysis:

Hypothetical 1 (Voter fraud): Acorn hires folks to sign up voters, for which they pay those folks (as do the repubs in their milieu). Most of those folks are honest and turn in legitimate registrations. Unfortunately, there is a small group who manufacture fake sign-ups just to get paid by Acorn. Acorn finds most of those and reports them, which means that they are purged from the registered voters rolls. But even more important, even if they are not filtered by Acorn, so what. Is the ficticious voter actually going to appear and vote. I'd like to be there when the poll workers ask Mickey Mouse, or Paul Newman, or Bob Dylan, or even Joe Blow for his address and identifaction.

Hypotheical 2 (Election fraud): Oh, I could go on and on regarding this topic. Sending out flyers to registered democrats telling them that the day to vote is November 5th; or, messing with elecrontic voting machines to flip the results; or, doing everyting possible to make sure that minority voters have to stand in line for hours to vote while the true elites in this society waltz in and out with mimimal annoyance; or, disemminating false claims that if voters show up to vote, and have warrants or tax liens, or parking tickets, etc. they will be arrested; or by artiface intercepting mail-in ballots and destroying them, or....

Jim, here is the simple emperical exercise: Assume that the propositions and examples I have laid out are true, even if you dispute them. (We can talk about those later if need be). But, assuming they are true, please answer honestly: which scenario has the most deleterious effect on the US Constitution and our democracy? And while you're doing that, please explain in detail how Donald Duck, or Clint Eastwood, or Joe Blow is going to get a vote counted when Acorn has probably already purged those names, but even if not, how a human being, showing up to the polls, without corresponding ID is going to get to cast that vote? Come on, show me how. And, lastly, who comprises this army of nefarious souls who will show up at a polling place, and try to pull that off?

Sorry Jim, I get a bit hot about the difference between voter fraud and election fraud. The former is minuscule, if not non-existent, while the latter has probably subjected us to 8 years of hell. Remember, registration fraud, as noted above, very, very, very rarely translates to voter fraud.

Avidly waiting your reply ...

~Willy

John M. Lally said...

I guess you didn't read my post. The Pennsylvania judge wasn't impressed.

JIm said...

jm lally,
Understood, but there is a federal investigation on that will possibly result in RICCO prosecutions. The RICCO (conspiracy) laws are what Guilanni used against the mob.

JIm said...

Alamedaton-Dear Willy,
I am in the investment business. In order to be employed in the business I must be fingerprinted and be a non felon. Hopefully I will be competent, but there is no guarantee that I will be. My firm is required to oversee and review every transaction that I do, on penalty of financial and criminal censor. I and my firm are required to affirm, that every transaction that is done is in the best interests of the client. Penalties for non compliance are severe including jail. My client's money are very dear to them. Every voter's vote should be equally as dear. Our whole democracy is at risk, if the integrety of the vote is compromised. If we require oversight with severe penalties for malfeasence in the investment business, we should at least have similar rules for people and organizations who are attempting to mass register people to vote.

Am I nuts, or is the United Sates of America, the longest living democratic republic on planet earth, worth enforcing rules that will ensure that our most precious right, the vote, be kept honest.

JIm said...

Poll Update!! Who Knows Anything is possible!

ZOGBY: MCCAIN MOVES INTO LEAD 48-47 IN ONE DAY POLLING

JIm said...

Bobby Kennedy was a liberal saint. It is strange this has not drawn fire from liberal sources.

Ayers dedicated book to Sirhan Sirhan
Obama's colleague saw Robert Kennedy's assassin as 'political prisoner'

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Posted: October 31, 2008
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