Monday, October 27, 2008

THE BIG DIFFERENCE

The big difference between liberal Democrats and rightwing Republicans (a distinction necessary to make since there are very few truly leftwing Democrats and very few moderate or liberal Republicans anymore, though there once were many of all of the above) can be demonstrated in a simple way.

When Bush Junior stole the election in 2000, and again in many observers views, including mine, in 2004, there were no mass demonstrations by liberal Democrats or angry mobs of liberal Democrats screaming for his head (or even Congressional investigations into the methods used to steal the 2000 and 2004 elections once Democrats won a majority in 2006).

And I am certain there were few, if any, worries on the part of the Republican leadership, among Junior's administration, or even in the Republican party ranks, that Junior was in any actual physical danger, other than the usual threats faced by any president of either party.

Even after his actions or inactions caused some of the most devastating calamities of our times, there seemed to be no fear that some liberal Democrat would do anything more to him than voice their opposition, usually modulated with caveats about how their criticism did not imply any criticism of his patriotism or Christian faith and values etc.

But I doubt there is any Obama supporter, except the youngest and most naive, who isn't worried for Obama.

First of all that the election might be stolen, despite the obvious lead he now has in enough states to win not just the popular vote but the electoral college.

Because rightwing Republicans have tried to suppress voting in the elections of the past, including those of the past eight years, including by bringing cases of voter fraud against Democrats in swing districts or districts where Republicans once held sway and were losing traction (that was at the root of the Justice Department scandal with Gonzales firing Republican-faithful federal prosecutors around the country who refused to bring these suits because there wasn't enough evidence or at times any evidence).

All objective studies show that there have been more problems with Republican corporate owned voting machines and voters being turned away for not having the proper I. D., or too few voting machines being available in Democratic districts, and other voter suppression tactics that would benefit Republican candidates (as in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004), than there has been any proven voter fraud that has benefited or might benefit Democrats.

And I doubt there is any Obama supporter except for the youngest and most naive, who isn't concerned for Obama's safety, if he does win the vote (or even in the few days left before the election if it looks as it does inevitable that he will win).

That's a pretty stark difference. Democrats certainly project a glum scenario if McCain and Plain get elected, especially if something happens to McCain in his first term and Palin becomes president. But I doubt anyone in either of the McCain or Palin camp is worried about some "liberal" physically attacking them, or even of the liberal Democratic leadership pressing any investigation against them if they're elected (after all, Pelosi refused to even consider impeaching Junior even though he has commited more treasonable acts than Clinton or Nixon or any other president in history).

Rightwing Republicans, on the other hand, have used the power of the government, including the military and security agencies, to keep tabs on and thwart or overthrow any opposition (e.g. Nixon's "enemies list" and "dirty tricks," the most expensive investigation in history against Clinton which found no wrongdoing other than an extramarital affair etc., Junior's wiretapping of US citizens etc.).

And the McCain/Palin campaign continues to foment anger and hatred toward Obama and liberals and Democrats, while even further-to-the-right commentators like Rush and some of the Fox crowd and the behind the scenes proteges of Rove in the Palin and McCain camps (especially the former) push even harder for anger and hatred toward anything left of their hardcore rightwing ideology, to the point of fomenting a deep paranoia that if Obama gets elected it will only be by "stealing" votes and it will result in the US being hand delivered to either Muslim terrorists or some amorphous international socialist/communist conspiracy, or worse, leading to the kind of desperate acts blind ideology often leads to.

Like that poor girl who cut a reverse "B" on her cheek (didn't that give it away to anyone besides me that she obviously did it herself while looking in the mirror?) after listening to a robocall from Sarah Palin and the McCain/Palin campaign stirring up that kind of paranoia about Obama, enough to make her deliberately inflict that on herself and claim some Obama supporters did it to her.

The closer it gets to the election, the harder I'm praying for Obama's, and his family's, safety and protection from such crazies, and for a peaceful transition into his presidency, if, as all the polls now make clear, he wins the election and it isn't stolen by voter suppression and faulty voting machines (see this recent story, one of too many about voting machine problems in Jersey, where I vote, and in too many other states—like stories today about bad butterfly type ballot design in North Carolina).

10 comments:

JIm said...

I assume you would be concerned if Obama was hung in effigy somewhere in the Bible Belt. Since I am sure you are a man of fairness, you may want to offer a prayer for Sarah.

Halloween Palin Prop Sparks Controversy In WeHo
WEST HOLLYWOOD (CBS News) ―
The rumor turned out to be false, but tonight comes word that a mannequin has been outfitted to look like Palin -- with glasses, a beehive wig and a red business suit -- and is hanging from a noose outside a WeHo residence.

The display also depicts a devilish John McCain emerging from flames.

AlamedaTom said...

Gosh Jim:

Obama has been hung in effigy in Ohio: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/19/racist-obama-effigy-hung_n_135971.html

And, praise the Lord, he has been hung in effigy at a CHRISTIAN college in Oregon: http://www.blackvoices.com/newsarticle/_a/obama-effigy-hung-from-college-tree/20080926083709990001

~ Willy

JIm said...

Alamedatom, Praise the lord and power to the people, there seems to be bipartisan effigy hanging.

Judging by the poll that was most accurate in 04, the race continues to tighten.

IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Day Fifteen
Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008



After seesawing between 3.2 and 3.9 points over the weekend, Obama's lead slipped to 2.8 Monday. Battleground also has Obama up 3, and other polls have tightened, including Rasmussen, Zogby and Gallup to 5. Some polls show swings in independents, but IBD/TIPP has them in a stable, 5-point range.

JIm said...

POOR LITTLE JOEY BIDEN Took UMBRAGE AT NON DEFFERENTIAL QUESTIONS FROM LOCAL MEDIA. I GUESS HE SHOULD STICK WITH CBS, NBC, MSNBC ETC. HE DOES NOT LIKE QUESTIONS ABOUT OBAMA’S MARXISM. TAX POLICIES AND NEFARIOUS ALLIANCES.

‘PRETTY UGLY’: BIDEN BLASTS INTERVIEW WITH FLORIDA ANCHOR

SOURCES: LIKE ORLANDO, BIDEN BANS PHILADELPHIA STATION AFTER TOUGH INTERVIEW

Unknown said...

Does any poor person actually believe that wealth is going to be taken from wealthy people and given to poor people? Really?

If we are really looking at an Obama Presidency where poor people become rich, where's the line?

I think what we're talking about is an increase in the tax rate for people in the top brackets. Big whoop. Probably a reinstatement of the Federal Estate Tax. Whoopee.

But I guess if you scream "Socialism" at the top of your lungs, it's not as boring.

JIm said...

Déjà vu all over again

Hillary Backers Decry Massive Obama Vote Fraud

Monday, October 27, 2008 10:45 AM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size



With accusations of voter registration fraud swirling as early voting begins in many states, some Hillary Clinton supporters are saying: “I told you so.”

Already in Iowa, the Obama campaign was breaking the rules, busing in supporters from neighboring states to vote illegally in the first contest in the primaries and physically intimidating Hillary supporters, they say.

In caucus after caucus, Obama bused in supporters from out of state, intimidated elderly voters and women, and stole election packets so Hillary supporters couldn’t vote. Thanks to these and other strong-arm tactics, Obama won victories in all but one of the caucuses, even in states such as Maine where Hillary had been leading by double digits in the polls.

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_voter_fraud/2008/10/27/144303.html?s=al&promo_code=6E3F-1

Harryn Studios said...

i think all one has to do to recognize the 'big difference' is to look at this blog as a microcosm over the past several months ...

once again, it becomes apparent that the 'right' will stoop to anything to get their own way - to win - and g.w's tactics over the past eight years only serve to emphasize that fact ...

at any other time in the history of western civilization, if there were a government or group of individuals responsible for the atrocities and debacles this administration has bestowed upon the people - the castle would be stormed and the villans at least tar and feathered ...

all this hate-mongering and devisiveness from the 'right' is totally irresponsible - and i too, pray that no harm comes to obama and his family as a result ...

JIm said...

harryn,

What do you think of Obama's "Truth Squads"? Do you think it is appropriate to threaten law suits against media outlets that run NRA ads attacking Obama on the 2nd amendment rights? Do you think it appropriate to attack and attempt to intimidate a Chicago radio station that ran an interview with Stanley Kurz, who investigated Obama, the Annenberg education project, where funds were sent to community organizer and Marist groups rather than to education projects to improve academic achievement(as was stipulated be the, deceased donor, Annenberg).

Maybe as you stoop to critizie the right, with a general non specific charge you will notice the Fascist tactics of Obama.

Harryn Studios said...

jim -

at this point i know better than to debate the validity of your accusations, but i am humored by how far up your sleeve you have to reach to divert our attention from the daily onslought of lies and deception your brand of party disseminates ...

the beauty of history is that everything, eventually finds its' own place ...

you may at some point find that you were allied with one of the most corrupt and devisive group of criminals in political history - all because your intolerance and exclusivity misinterpreted the notion of 'right' ...

one hell of a legacy ...

JIm said...

harryn,

Rather than refute an accusation, attack the questioner. Obama/Bided do it all the time. Why shoudn't you? That was downright funny when Biden went after the Florida TV lady who dared ask if Obama was a Marxist.