Saturday, August 18, 2012

QUOTE OF THE WEEK

"At a time when poverty is increasing, when public parks and public libraries are being closed and when public schools are shrinking their offerings and their hours, when the nation's debt is immense, and when the 400 richest Americans have more wealth than the bottom 150 million of us put together - Romney's 13 percent is shameful." —Robert Reich (On Romney's paying 13% in federal taxes)

[PS: This more recent commentary by Reich makes the Romney/Ryan lies even more obvious.]

13 comments:

Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Shameful, criminal, immoral and unethical. A man who is not open with his taxes and financial affairs has no business running for public office, asking for the trust of people he is ripping off.

Robert G. Zuckerman said...

http://my.earthlink.net/article/us?guid=20120818/8d201233-190b-4ca9-89c0-91cc074313a0

Second Amendment bastardization daily (tragically) update

JIm said...
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JIm said...

Lally can not stand to confront the numbers because it destroys his arguments.

Robert G. Zuckerman said...

If you look at it, Jim is really one of us, playing the devil's advocate with his outlandish contrarianism so that we may reaffirm and strengthen our conviction and committment to what is true, good and right. Thank you Jim, for helping clarify the truth.

JIm said...

Your welcome Robert. Who knows? Maybe a fact can eventually penetrate a liberal brain. The odds are long but I suspect there are a lot more former liberals than former conservatives.

As and example there is the fact that Mitt Romney's income was taxed first at the corporate level at 35% plus state taxes and then taxed again at the individual level at 15%, the dividend and capital gains rate.

Robert G. Zuckerman said...

How do you know this - he won't disclose his tax returns. THIS IS THE FACT, that he won't disclose his returns, not the numbers you bandy about, which again, reaffirm the reality that he is not trustworthy and you are simply loco.

Lally said...

You hit the nail on the head Robert. I deleted the figures because they are false. The stalker parrots the lies he learns from the rightwing media he genuflects at the altar of, because the actual facts defeat every tenet he right pretends to believe in. the facts make it clear that almost no one in "Corporate America" pays the 35% the right pretends is killing business in the USA. In fact most of US corporations are doing fine, in fact the major ones, oil. banks, insurance companies, etc. have made more money under Obama than at any time in this nation's history. And most don't pay anything in taxes let alone 35%. Most oil corporations and many other corporations in the US get money back! Yes, they not only don't pay taxes through loopholes and offshore banking etc. but they use their million dollar tax lawyers to find ways to get refund on taxes never even spent! It's a shameful scam that is at the heart of why the so-called "middle class" (I prefer the more accurate label, working class) has seen its economic security eroded and why as Reich's article points out, a miniscule minority is wealthier than the over one hundred and fifty million of the rest of us. Disgraceful. And anyone who defends that is either intentionally evil or so brain washed and mind controlled they have no capacity for truth anymore, just propaganda parroting.

JIm said...
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Lally said...

Exxon-Mobil paid NO federal income taxes for 2011. What the right does is say USA corporations are taxed higher than any in the world because the federal rate is above one percent above the highest elsewhere in the advanced world. But when we who care about ALL the facts say most corporations in the USA get away with paying much less than individuals and in many cases pay none at all or even get refunds, they then change what they mean by "taxes" to include any and all taxes like local and even including sales taxes etc. when it's talking about corporations and then uses that in arguments against people who said these corporations paid little or nothing in federal taxes. They are always comparing apples and oranges or any other distortion that will justify corporate greed and lawlessness at the expense of the rest of us.

JIm said...
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tpw said...

Dear M:
Every time I scan the comments here on Lally's Alley & see all the remarks, deleted & otherwise, from "Jim" (whose offensive nonsense I decided years ago to ignore), I get annoyed at this guy's taking up your time, energy, and talent. These people are locked in, nailed down, unreachable by argument and reality, so why bother with them? It is literally a waste of your valuable time--he doesn't deserve it.
yrs,
T