Saturday, April 14, 2012

IT'S GETTING EVEN CURIOUSER

I'm sure you already heard about the Arizona law that says that life doesn't begin at conception, it begins before the egg is even fertilized! read bout it here.

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Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

In a world where we eat eggs, slaughtered beings (beef, poultry, fish and other) and promote murder through ready availability of guns in stores and their use in mass media, the hypocrisy, absurdity, idiocy and pure evil are beyond comprehension and I know Gd is weeping.

April 15, 2012 at 6:15:00 AM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

Hopefully Democrats somehow attack Ann Romney and declare a further war on women. If the recent head to head polls sre an indication, the war on women BS seems to have boomeranged.

April 15, 2012 at 8:34:00 AM EDT  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

http://my.earthlink.net/article/hea?guid=20120412/b8335d61-30f8-43f1-ab1b-c465f696770e

Brazil legalizes abortions on brainless fetuses. Careful reading of the Bible does not probibit elmination of suffering as a result of misfortune or rape, contrary to the dogma of the unlearned, indoctrinated lemming masses.

April 15, 2012 at 9:22:00 AM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

Robert, Liberals like you, Obama and Lally are anti-baby and life. Liberals claim empathy for victims and than advocate the murder of innocents including babies that have survived the abor1tion procedure. By the way the most aborted babies are blacks by something like 4 to 1. Sounds like racism to me. I suspect far more liberals are killing their babies than conservatives.Hmmm, maybe I should rethink the issue.

April 15, 2012 at 10:53:00 AM EDT  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Jim, I am anti gun and therefore more more pro-life than you are. I do not condone abortion for convenience or casually, but when the pregnancy is the result of rape, or if it is clear that the fetus if born will soon die or live a life of great suffering, or if the mother's life is severely threatened, then I am in favor of the lesser of two worses, and therefore am in favor of the abortion in such times. As usual, you spout your pre-determined, agenda based conclusions without carefully reading what is written or said.

April 15, 2012 at 12:21:00 PM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

Yesterday, Loyeen and I took an NRA course on basic pistol. When she told some of her fellow teachers and NEA members, that she planned to take the course, they asked with a in a stunned manner; are you a Republican? And of course Loyeen is a life time Democrat. She said she does not like people putting labels on her. At the shooting range, not only did she out shoot all the students but she out shot the instructor. It has been 20 years since the last time she shot a firearm.The last time was off the back of a ship shooting clays with a shotgun,when we were on our honeymoon. She beat me then too.

April 15, 2012 at 12:41:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Basic pistol can easily kill. Bow and arrow can give same or more target satisfaction without the attached misuse/kill potential.

April 15, 2012 at 3:52:00 PM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

Robert, Many liberals are attempting to limit Constitutional freedoms, including 2nd Amendment rights. I believe the tide is turning against them. We shall see in November.

April 15, 2012 at 4:27:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Murdering people is not a Constitutional freedom. Owning a modern gun is NOT what the FOUNDERS had in mind. IF you can possibly believe this, you are insane.

April 15, 2012 at 5:25:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

And you can continue to delude yourself about November...

April 15, 2012 at 5:27:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

The Founders only knew and conceived of single loading muskets, bayonets (yes, this is part of their notion of "arms"), not department store buyable pistols and school/hospital/church/gated community murders. Had they envisioned this, the language of the Constitution would be much different than it is. Only a complete moron would dispute this.

April 15, 2012 at 5:31:00 PM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

Robert,
I own a 1911 45 caliber semi automatic pistol that was carried by US military in WWI, WWII, Korea and part of Vietnam. It makes big holes. I carry it when longbow hunting in the fall. I have had mountain lions by my cabin at 10,500 ft. Bears are active in the area however, I have not seen any. I would just as soon not be eaten or mauled. Liberals like you have no respect for the Constituion, but the Supreme Court has consistently ruled in favor of second amendment rights. I would rather have the Supreme Court on my side than a liberal.

April 15, 2012 at 6:02:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

Second Amendment ratifie in 1791.

Guns in 1791 WOULD
...be made by a gunsmith.
...have rudimentary rifling.
...be single-shot weapons.
...be loaded through the muzzle.
...fire by means of a flintlock.

Guns in 1791 WOULD NOT
...have interchangeable parts.
...be revolvers. (Invented in 1835)
...be breachloaded. (Popularized in 1810)
...use smokeless powder. (Invented in 1885)
...use a percussion cap, necessary for modern cartridged bullets. (Invented in 1842)
...load bullets from a clip. (Invented in 1890)



You completely ignore data and facts that are immutable. One who so ignores is an ignoramus. Too bad. case closed

April 15, 2012 at 7:37:00 PM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

Again, I would rather have the Supreme Court agree with me than Mordecai's son.

April 15, 2012 at 8:23:00 PM EDT  
Blogger tom said...

Most of the liberals I know around here - hunt. (or there husbands, wives, or parents do and many of them have taught their children to hunt) As Robert points out there is a difference between what the Founding Fathers were talking about when it came to Second Amendment rights than the conditions we have now. But.
back to the original topic - Jim do you believe that a woman can be pregnant two weeks before she has sex? That is what the law in Arizona implies.

April 15, 2012 at 10:08:00 PM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

Tom, I have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you can present the actual language. I do not believe there is a dispute as to when life begins. It begins at conception. The dispute is to when that life should be protected by law.

April 15, 2012 at 10:27:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Lally said...

I let you guys play since you seem to want to. But almost every comment by the usually deleted one contained at least one lie, and the last one showed that he hasn't even read the article the post is about! Don't know why you guys waste your time on him.

April 15, 2012 at 10:56:00 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim is like a kid who will take negative attention if he can't get it in a positive way. He is very immature, and very dumb and spiteful, and I feel very sorry for him...I also wish he would crawl back into his hole.

April 16, 2012 at 9:07:00 PM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

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April 17, 2012 at 9:06:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Lally said...

Facts for rightwingers in the bubble mean anything their media and political leaders say, whether true or not, and lies are anything anyone else says, wether false or not. The deleted one has been consistently refuted in his facts over the years he's been stalking this blog and his technique is always predictable. When his facts are refuted he changes the subject. When they are refuted repeatedly, he gets angry and calls names. When I begin deleting him because it becomes too tiresome and I don't like being any kind of conduit for the relentless rightwing barrage of propaganda based on misinformation misdirection and lies, he then starts threatening me, either in comments I delete or in emails to me. Too too tedious and time wasting, as well as robotically repetitive in ways that have unfortunately taken over large swaths of ill-informed citizens who get all their "news" and "information" from rightwing sources like Faux News and Rush et. al.

April 17, 2012 at 10:10:00 PM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

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April 17, 2012 at 10:55:00 PM EDT  
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April 17, 2012 at 11:01:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Lally said...

By the way, when I fixed the comments deal so you don't have to copy letters etc. to leave one, I got some spam on various topics and when I went back to correct one on a post from when Bush/Cheney were still reigning, there was you know who supporting them! (of course after they left office his comment switched and he began to claim, like many Republicans that Bush/Cheney messed up and we should all put that behind us and how he never supported many of their policies that put us in the mess we were in when Obama took office etc. and on day one of Obama his attacks began. What amazingly arrogant hypocrisy!

April 18, 2012 at 8:21:00 AM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

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April 18, 2012 at 5:00:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Robert G. Zuckerman said...

It was and has been so blatantly obvious, the agenda driven opposition to our legally elected Prsident since on or before day one of his term. It is a clear indication of the true colors of the Teapocrits and Repubes.

April 19, 2012 at 7:13:00 AM EDT  
Blogger JIm said...

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April 19, 2012 at 7:21:00 PM EDT  
Blogger Lally said...

Predictable or what? But I had to delete. Too many lies (that I and Robert and liberals in general have no regard for The Constitution? A tiresome rightwing nut refrain and as I've pointed out I gave over four years of my life to military service and fought many political battle to gain rights The Constitution guarantees but the right had been suppressing etc. And if you didn't see it before I deleted it, besides resorting to calling me names again he actuallly said "Bush was right on defense"—can you believe it? I've always believed in the human capacity for redemption, but the right has been eroding that belief for a while now.

April 19, 2012 at 7:50:00 PM EDT  

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