So Romney is now claiming in speeches that Obama "doubled" the debt. The facts are that Reagan tripled the debt during his time in office, Bush Junior doubled it and left that debt and The Great Recession to Obama with two unpaid for tax cuts and two unpaid for wars and then under Obama battling the worst financial crisis since The Great Depression it grew by half.
Any schoolkid knows that adding a one to a two is not doubling, but somehow Romney and the rightwing Republicans don't know that. And the "mainstream" media (I don't count Bill Maher and Jon Stewart and Colbert and a few shows in MSNBC as "mainstream") will not call them on it.
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Robert G. Zuckerman said...
I heard a radio interview of Roger Waters by Jim Ladd. You should try to find this as Roger Waters perspective and illumination on the surreality of people actually buying into the egregious lies of Romney and the wrong (actual word for "right") is scary and akin to what Hitler did - the bigger the lie, the more they'll buy into it. Roger emphasized how Romney et al somehow get people to believe in them even though their intention is to profit from the exploitation and plundering of them/us.
16 trillion, plus 6 trillion under Obama and projected to increase at 1 trillion a year if reelected. There Lally, do you feel better now.
"Trillion" is relative and is but a number. It's like Dr. Evil in Autin Powers getting hot when he asks for a ransom of "one million dollars" which at one point was vast and now it's commonplace. The true debt is in spirit, kindness, morality, tolerance and things of this nature. Money can be printed. What matters is that people ALL PEOPLE live quality lives free of suffering and we can do this, make this world, but Romney would take us far away from this and delay its realization. The thing of it is, Bush/Cheney et al started an avalanche and Obama has done much to slow and even reverse it, and all the mumbo jumbo about blaming him is simply hate.
To the Right, Robert, truth doesn't matter. If you can push a lie often enough (which sometimes is just once) those people who are inclined to believe it will believe without question. Believe and repeat it. The outright hatred for Obama the feeds these lies continues to astound me. The hatred of not only Obama but the hatred of minorities and the poor of all colors (although many on the white right don't seem to know that much of the poverty in this country is white) If we are a nation founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs as they would claim then they should not be supporting the economic and government policies of the right. And yet, in there blindness they do. Our tea party US Rep sends out mailings that supply no specifics of what the policies he supports will do to people because he knows that so many won't look beyond the trite promises to see the horrendous results. And won't admit as one millionaire recently pointed out on a TED talk - that the rich are not job creators. It is the middle class that creates the demand and therefore creates the jobs. But as the middle class is dwindling do to conservative policies not much will change. And it will all be blamed on Obama.
Tom, There is no hatred of blacks, minorities or women or any of the stuff you spoke of. After all we have Republican black congressmen and most likely will have a female black conservative in congress from Utah, next year. There is hatred on the right for what we believe is an out of control federal govt., with an ever growing debt. We hate the fact that Obama is openly attempting to turn the US into a European socialist country. We also have studied history and know that socialism does not work. As the Iron Lady said, "Socialism eventually runs out of other peoples money.
PS even the most ardent conservative knows that we can not get rid of entitlements, but they have to be put on sound financial footing or we go the way of Greece.
so lets privatize garbage pick up, police, fire, and libraries! Lets make sure we continue to screw anyone that needs help! That's the American way hooray for me screw you.
Anonymous, Let us compare the cost and effectiveness of public and private runing of government programs. Which ever makes the most sense should be supported.
This administration did not take us into two incursions against the will of the people that have cost trillions of dollars and countless lives and have rendered thousands of soldiers homeless, jobless and without sorely needed counseling, it did not build and start Guantanamo, it did not negelct intelligence and then allow horrendous terrorist attacks upon our soil, it did not wipe out a substantial budget surplus and instead begin an avalanche of debt and unemployment.
Robert,
And did not Obama carry on Bush's policies by expanding death from above with drones? Is Obama's war policy Bush II, but with ineptitude(sp). It is usually not a good idea to telegraph your moves in war time. Some would say we are not at war. Al Quaida would disagree.
WTf? Taking out bin Laden is ineptitude? Your utterence is but one more example, and further proof of, your hatred, ignorance and lack of character.
It is unlikely that Bin Laden would have been taken with out the previous work done by Bush including the water boarding.
Under Obama it is safer to be an enemy than an ally. He undermines Israel but props up the Muslim Brotherhood who is about to takeover Eygpt.
He attacks Lybia by leading from behind. Iran had a revolution in the streets that cried out for support. He ignored it. He has supported Assad over the years and has done little or nothing to support those attempting to overthrow.
He carries out the Bush policy in Iraq and Afganistan but bungles an exit by announcing a withdrawal.
As Bill Clinton said, he is an Amateur.
The scorpions hiding in Romney's sacred underwear fear only one thing, and that is fire.
Maybe next time.
By the way Herr Jimbo, Libya is no relation to Lydia. Just saying.
Mispell on, bubba!
I'm leaving the rightwing stalker's last series of lies in, since they're being responded to and the responses are worth keeping. But his utter lack of understanding, logic, grasp of actual facts, etc. is obvious and his robo-parroting of his rightwing media masters sadly indicative of their brainwashing successes with those minds weak enough to succumb.
TC, You seem to be a bigot when it comes to Latter Day Saints. Do you feel the same about Christians and the Resurection thing, Jews about the Passover and affliction stories in Eygpt, Islam and Mohammed flying to Jeruselem, to heaven and back to Arabia in one night. Then of course there is that whole convert, die or be taxed intollerance and then there is of course the honor killing and beheading for the greater glory of Allah.
Lally, You again accuse me of lying without naming the lie. In the past you made the same accusation in an email. When challenged, you said the lie was to call Obama a socialist. Obama's policies are clearly socialist. A partial list follows.
-Obamacare
-Dodd Frank
-Takeover of Auto industry
-Obama's public goal to make the US
more like Europe, which of course is socialist.
Then there is the whole literacy thing.
"intollerance" is not an English word.
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Jim's "list" is misleading and inaccurate. For example "takeover" of the auto industry. There was no "takeover", there was a loan, which was repaid and which saved many jobs and which enabled good Americans to survive. Actually, President Obama is closer to being a Vulcan like Mr. Spock who said "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." If Jim and his family are in that horrible "Socialist" empire called Europe and one of them becomes ill or injured and Jim also loses his ID, insurance card and Credit Cards (although in principle Jim should only use debit cards), those evil socialists will take care of them, giving them full medical care without questioning or hesitation, only responding with humanity, professionalism and care, Jim, to avoid being a total hypocrit Jim should refuse such service and care, even if he, his wife or daughter were in critical need of care.
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